Friday, April 2, 2010

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Tea Baggers

Everything that was stated in the email Rita sent along made me mad. Mad as hell, but I am not sure what I could have done to stop any of it. On the other hand I am not as sure as you sound that the elections that you mentioned actually mean what you think they do or that the coming elections, however they turn out, will make much difference either. It’s not that simple.



People are jumping up and down about socialist policies. Medicare and Medicaid fall under the idea of socialist programs and most people who are on them seem to like them and wouldn’t want to get rid of them. Why is it that when we work to help the people of our country, so many people can’t seem to just think of how the particular program will help. Some socialist programs are not necessarily bad. I feel that most people who complain about such policies think of them as Communism or Communist Socialism, but they are not the same. The programs that are being initiated in this country would fall under Democratic Socialism; something that should be good in a Democratic country. We should be trying to make things better for the middle and lower classes and that is what these programs are designed to do.



I agree with and/or understand many of the points you are making, but I also feel that I cannot know all that goes on in Washington. I understand that you have to do a great deal of compromising to get things done there. It seems like a very difficult position to be in and no bill is ever going to be just what everyone wants. Early on in this health care debate I was angry that many members of congress kept saying, “We have to get something passed and then go about fixing it”. I now understand that idea. You have to start by coming up with something that you can get enough votes on. Then go about making it better.



I am mad as hell that big corporations, lobbyists, and other rich people are running this country and making themselves richer and richer at the expense of the rest of us. We need some really good laws, without loopholes, that will direct much of that money away from them and give it to those of us who actually need it. No, I really don’t like more and more laws, but since we have this growing rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer situation along with an ever growing population, I feel we have to have more laws. Most of us need the protection.



Anyway I could keep going on and on, but that’s it for the moment.

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Subject: RE: tea baggers



Rita,



Actually, most of America (not just the Tea Baggers) is mad because of …



socialistic policies

a government which can’t manage anything without incredible overhead which is now trying to operate businesses

tactics to pass legislation in spite of what the American public thinks as a whole

elitist policies and comments by the majority leaders of both parties

a government health care system largely modeled after Massachusetts and Tennessee’s systems, both of which are bankrupting those states per their Treasurers

a blatant false promise from Pelosi about cleaning up ethics

blatant false priority promises by Obama

the White House and Congress focusing on a liberal social agenda for over a year and handing out billions of dollars (just like the Bush treasury) before barely addressing the jobless situation

those same elitists trying to tell the American public what we felt and meant when the majority party lost Gubernatorial elections in NJ and VA, and then lost Ted Kennedy’s seat in Massachusetts

140 bank failures in 2009 vs. 28 in 2008 while handouts were given to big Corporations that didn’t need them

the current record pace of bank failures in 2010.



Yes, many people didn’t like the Bush White House. They also didn’t like Pelosi as Speaker of the House, Obama’s main ally, the last two years of the Bush Administration. She still has the lowest public approval of any national politician.



Attack the Tea Baggers all you want, but the voting public is mad as hell, and the Tea Baggers are just a subset. I’m not a tea bagger, and I don’t know any tea baggers. I do know November is coming, and I personally can’t wait.



Jim





Jim Giddings

http://www.jhowardgiddings.com
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Subject: tea baggers



We had eight years of Bush and Cheney, Now you get mad!?


You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and
appointed a President.

You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate
energy policy.

You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.

You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.

You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq.

You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.

You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.

You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.

You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.
You didn't get mad when we gave a 900 billion tax break to the rich.

You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.

You finally got mad when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all okay with you, but helping other Americans...oh hell no.