Thursday, April 8, 2010
Friday, April 2, 2010
Tea Baggers
Everything that was stated in the email Rita sent along made me mad. Mad as hell, but I am not sure what I could have done to stop any of it. On the other hand I am not as sure as you sound that the elections that you mentioned actually mean what you think they do or that the coming elections, however they turn out, will make much difference either. It’s not that simple.
People are jumping up and down about socialist policies. Medicare and Medicaid fall under the idea of socialist programs and most people who are on them seem to like them and wouldn’t want to get rid of them. Why is it that when we work to help the people of our country, so many people can’t seem to just think of how the particular program will help. Some socialist programs are not necessarily bad. I feel that most people who complain about such policies think of them as Communism or Communist Socialism, but they are not the same. The programs that are being initiated in this country would fall under Democratic Socialism; something that should be good in a Democratic country. We should be trying to make things better for the middle and lower classes and that is what these programs are designed to do.
I agree with and/or understand many of the points you are making, but I also feel that I cannot know all that goes on in Washington. I understand that you have to do a great deal of compromising to get things done there. It seems like a very difficult position to be in and no bill is ever going to be just what everyone wants. Early on in this health care debate I was angry that many members of congress kept saying, “We have to get something passed and then go about fixing it”. I now understand that idea. You have to start by coming up with something that you can get enough votes on. Then go about making it better.
I am mad as hell that big corporations, lobbyists, and other rich people are running this country and making themselves richer and richer at the expense of the rest of us. We need some really good laws, without loopholes, that will direct much of that money away from them and give it to those of us who actually need it. No, I really don’t like more and more laws, but since we have this growing rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer situation along with an ever growing population, I feel we have to have more laws. Most of us need the protection.
Anyway I could keep going on and on, but that’s it for the moment.
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Subject: RE: tea baggers
Rita,
Actually, most of America (not just the Tea Baggers) is mad because of …
socialistic policies
a government which can’t manage anything without incredible overhead which is now trying to operate businesses
tactics to pass legislation in spite of what the American public thinks as a whole
elitist policies and comments by the majority leaders of both parties
a government health care system largely modeled after Massachusetts and Tennessee’s systems, both of which are bankrupting those states per their Treasurers
a blatant false promise from Pelosi about cleaning up ethics
blatant false priority promises by Obama
the White House and Congress focusing on a liberal social agenda for over a year and handing out billions of dollars (just like the Bush treasury) before barely addressing the jobless situation
those same elitists trying to tell the American public what we felt and meant when the majority party lost Gubernatorial elections in NJ and VA, and then lost Ted Kennedy’s seat in Massachusetts
140 bank failures in 2009 vs. 28 in 2008 while handouts were given to big Corporations that didn’t need them
the current record pace of bank failures in 2010.
Yes, many people didn’t like the Bush White House. They also didn’t like Pelosi as Speaker of the House, Obama’s main ally, the last two years of the Bush Administration. She still has the lowest public approval of any national politician.
Attack the Tea Baggers all you want, but the voting public is mad as hell, and the Tea Baggers are just a subset. I’m not a tea bagger, and I don’t know any tea baggers. I do know November is coming, and I personally can’t wait.
Jim
Jim Giddings
http://www.jhowardgiddings.com
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Subject: tea baggers
We had eight years of Bush and Cheney, Now you get mad!?
You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and
appointed a President.
You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate
energy policy.
You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.
You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.
You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq.
You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.
You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.
You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
You didn't get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.
You didn't get mad when we gave a 900 billion tax break to the rich.
You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.
You finally got mad when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all okay with you, but helping other Americans...oh hell no.
People are jumping up and down about socialist policies. Medicare and Medicaid fall under the idea of socialist programs and most people who are on them seem to like them and wouldn’t want to get rid of them. Why is it that when we work to help the people of our country, so many people can’t seem to just think of how the particular program will help. Some socialist programs are not necessarily bad. I feel that most people who complain about such policies think of them as Communism or Communist Socialism, but they are not the same. The programs that are being initiated in this country would fall under Democratic Socialism; something that should be good in a Democratic country. We should be trying to make things better for the middle and lower classes and that is what these programs are designed to do.
I agree with and/or understand many of the points you are making, but I also feel that I cannot know all that goes on in Washington. I understand that you have to do a great deal of compromising to get things done there. It seems like a very difficult position to be in and no bill is ever going to be just what everyone wants. Early on in this health care debate I was angry that many members of congress kept saying, “We have to get something passed and then go about fixing it”. I now understand that idea. You have to start by coming up with something that you can get enough votes on. Then go about making it better.
I am mad as hell that big corporations, lobbyists, and other rich people are running this country and making themselves richer and richer at the expense of the rest of us. We need some really good laws, without loopholes, that will direct much of that money away from them and give it to those of us who actually need it. No, I really don’t like more and more laws, but since we have this growing rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer situation along with an ever growing population, I feel we have to have more laws. Most of us need the protection.
Anyway I could keep going on and on, but that’s it for the moment.
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Subject: RE: tea baggers
Rita,
Actually, most of America (not just the Tea Baggers) is mad because of …
socialistic policies
a government which can’t manage anything without incredible overhead which is now trying to operate businesses
tactics to pass legislation in spite of what the American public thinks as a whole
elitist policies and comments by the majority leaders of both parties
a government health care system largely modeled after Massachusetts and Tennessee’s systems, both of which are bankrupting those states per their Treasurers
a blatant false promise from Pelosi about cleaning up ethics
blatant false priority promises by Obama
the White House and Congress focusing on a liberal social agenda for over a year and handing out billions of dollars (just like the Bush treasury) before barely addressing the jobless situation
those same elitists trying to tell the American public what we felt and meant when the majority party lost Gubernatorial elections in NJ and VA, and then lost Ted Kennedy’s seat in Massachusetts
140 bank failures in 2009 vs. 28 in 2008 while handouts were given to big Corporations that didn’t need them
the current record pace of bank failures in 2010.
Yes, many people didn’t like the Bush White House. They also didn’t like Pelosi as Speaker of the House, Obama’s main ally, the last two years of the Bush Administration. She still has the lowest public approval of any national politician.
Attack the Tea Baggers all you want, but the voting public is mad as hell, and the Tea Baggers are just a subset. I’m not a tea bagger, and I don’t know any tea baggers. I do know November is coming, and I personally can’t wait.
Jim
Jim Giddings
http://www.jhowardgiddings.com
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Subject: tea baggers
We had eight years of Bush and Cheney, Now you get mad!?
You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and
appointed a President.
You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate
energy policy.
You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.
You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.
You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq.
You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.
You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.
You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
You didn't get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.
You didn't get mad when we gave a 900 billion tax break to the rich.
You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.
You finally got mad when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all okay with you, but helping other Americans...oh hell no.
Thursday, April 1, 2010
Wednesday, March 17, 2010
Conservatives Think They Are The Enlighten Ones
Snopes says this is true as do others on the internet.
Subject: A LETTER FROM A PROCTER AND GAMBLE EXECUTIVE TO THE PRESIDENT
THE LAST SENTENCE IS THE MOST CHILLING
Lou Pritchett is one of corporate America 's true living legends - an acclaimed author, dynamic teacher and one of the world's highest rated speakers. Successful corporate executives everywhere recognize him as the foremost leader in change management. Lou changed the way America does business by creating an audacious concept that came to be known as "partnering." Pritchett rose from soap salesman to Vice-President, Sales and Customer Development for Procter and Gamble and over the course of 36 years, made corporate history.
AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA
Dear President Obama:
You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of the others, you truly scare me.
You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.
You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.
You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.
You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.
You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don't understand it at its core.
You scare me because you lack humility and 'class', always blaming others.
You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail..
You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the 'blame America' crowd and deliver this message abroad.
You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.
You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.
You scare me because you prefer 'wind mills' to responsibly capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.
You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of living in the world.
You scare me because you have begun to use 'extortion' tactics against certain banks and corporations.
You scare me because your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.
You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent people.
You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both omnipotent and omniscient.
You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything you do.
You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the Limbaugh's, Hannitys, O'Reillys and Becks who offer opposing, conservative points of view.
You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.
Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.
Lou Pritchett
This letter was sent to the NY Times but they never acknowledged it. Big surprise. Since it hit the internet, however, it has had over 500,000 hits. Keep it going. All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.. It's happening right now.
Subject: A LETTER FROM A PROCTER AND GAMBLE EXECUTIVE TO THE PRESIDENT
THE LAST SENTENCE IS THE MOST CHILLING
Lou Pritchett is one of corporate America 's true living legends - an acclaimed author, dynamic teacher and one of the world's highest rated speakers. Successful corporate executives everywhere recognize him as the foremost leader in change management. Lou changed the way America does business by creating an audacious concept that came to be known as "partnering." Pritchett rose from soap salesman to Vice-President, Sales and Customer Development for Procter and Gamble and over the course of 36 years, made corporate history.
AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA
Dear President Obama:
You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of the others, you truly scare me.
You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.
You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no visible signs of support.
You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.
You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.
You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus don't understand it at its core.
You scare me because you lack humility and 'class', always blaming others.
You scare me because for over half your life you have aligned yourself with radical extremists who hate America and you refuse to publicly denounce these radicals who wish to see America fail..
You scare me because you are a cheerleader for the 'blame America' crowd and deliver this message abroad.
You scare me because you want to change America to a European style country where the government sector dominates instead of the private sector.
You scare me because you want to replace our health care system with a government controlled one.
You scare me because you prefer 'wind mills' to responsibly capitalizing on our own vast oil, coal and shale reserves.
You scare me because you want to kill the American capitalist goose that lays the golden egg which provides the highest standard of living in the world.
You scare me because you have begun to use 'extortion' tactics against certain banks and corporations.
You scare me because your own political party shrinks from challenging you on your wild and irresponsible spending proposals.
You scare me because you will not openly listen to or even consider opposing points of view from intelligent people.
You scare me because you falsely believe that you are both omnipotent and omniscient.
You scare me because the media gives you a free pass on everything you do.
You scare me because you demonize and want to silence the Limbaugh's, Hannitys, O'Reillys and Becks who offer opposing, conservative points of view.
You scare me because you prefer controlling over governing.
Finally, you scare me because if you serve a second term I will probably not feel safe in writing a similar letter in 8 years.
Lou Pritchett
This letter was sent to the NY Times but they never acknowledged it. Big surprise. Since it hit the internet, however, it has had over 500,000 hits. Keep it going. All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.. It's happening right now.
We Are That Generation that Had The Dream
I do not fear our future, I hate our past. Only a foll keeps doing the same things and expect a different outcome
I am a retired IT professional, we fixed things logically. Logically if we do A then we will get result B, and if we
do nothing, we will get the same results or worse we will have a crisis. Does this sound familiar...end of Bush administration
in America and a $700 billion money drop before we dropped into the black hole. HOLD UP..we are stabilizing OK!!!!!
I do not care what privileged American accomplish, if they do not do well in America they should have to face the founding
fathers of this nation. You see when you have an uneven playing field you run downhill all the time and should accomplish much.
I am more excited to see a President in the United States of any nationality other than the norm, man or woman who has made
great accomplishments and should be recognized for them. What is going on in DC is unacceptable. I may not agree with everything
our president says but I believe in America and feel it is time that we stop this bullshit and get back in gear before China leaves us so far
behind that they will be negotiating with North Korea over who controls the free worlds.
I say this is a bunch of bullshit, healthcare is already controlled by the government and always will be, I felt that this issue
should have been crammed thru like a pile driver thru soft cheese months ago before we lost the Public Option..
Now we got a watered down bill that really has baby teeth, I do not appreciate what the conservatives have done to this
country in the last 20 years and will not drop it at this administrations feet nor all at G W Bushes feet even-though he was at
the stern when the ship ran aground. This group of conservatives must go, we got to get the country moving and being broke
is not the way to get the wheels turning, so we spend ourselves out of a recession before it becomes a depression and then
take the money recovered from business generated to continue to power the machine while paying our debts, sounds like our
household to me.
We as that new generation will be judged by this blunder for years to comer as we reduced the shine of America from
sea to shining sea. We have rightfully allow those like Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck to spew their hatred, lies and poison
across this great country, which is their right by the constitution, but to but into such bullshit is beyond me. I though civilized
people thought for themselves and did their own research but now we have a herd being led to the slaughter by a group of fools that
cannot even believe the lies they tell. Hate mongers and naysayers will always be on this earth and they will always want that 1950s
America that 99% of the rest of us are glad will never come back.
Any fool in America knows everything from the research to the pill, the pill bottle, and it's inscriptions on that bottle is controlled
from Washington. Do you recall when George Bush said that stem cell research was wrong and now we are 8 years farther behind
the research of curing diseases, and growing limbs and spinal cord research. Folks wake up from this nightmare and stop letting the
Conservative say the public does not want healthcare, WHAT DAMN PUBLIC, have they become the public and speaks for the rest of us.
Even some on medicare are against healthcare reform and they do not even know what the hell it is about.
Half the new projects in America are powered by stimulus money, I have not seen any teachers raising hell because it saved their jobs.
I have not hear anyone that refused the money they got back as stimulus at federal tax time or the FICA reduction on their paychecks.
I think it is time to research alternative energy, I had solar panels back in the late 70's installed on my home, it made a big difference.
In the late 1990's I got ready to retire and remodeled, unfortunately that was one thing I let go.
Too many of us are buying into the hype and not doing any research, or is it selected amnesia, my Mom told me
to always try to come up on the side of right and that is where I will strive to be and I think we are headed in a better
direction than we were a year ago.
Do not stop sending your opinions and I will not stop voicing mine, I know not many will voice their opinions on these issues
they will forward them as they are as if they believe them whole heartily or delete them. It is interesting to see how we as a generation
think of life in America today. I am on Facebook under the same name.
Much love from the other side of the issue.
I am a retired IT professional, we fixed things logically. Logically if we do A then we will get result B, and if we
do nothing, we will get the same results or worse we will have a crisis. Does this sound familiar...end of Bush administration
in America and a $700 billion money drop before we dropped into the black hole. HOLD UP..we are stabilizing OK!!!!!
I do not care what privileged American accomplish, if they do not do well in America they should have to face the founding
fathers of this nation. You see when you have an uneven playing field you run downhill all the time and should accomplish much.
I am more excited to see a President in the United States of any nationality other than the norm, man or woman who has made
great accomplishments and should be recognized for them. What is going on in DC is unacceptable. I may not agree with everything
our president says but I believe in America and feel it is time that we stop this bullshit and get back in gear before China leaves us so far
behind that they will be negotiating with North Korea over who controls the free worlds.
I say this is a bunch of bullshit, healthcare is already controlled by the government and always will be, I felt that this issue
should have been crammed thru like a pile driver thru soft cheese months ago before we lost the Public Option..
Now we got a watered down bill that really has baby teeth, I do not appreciate what the conservatives have done to this
country in the last 20 years and will not drop it at this administrations feet nor all at G W Bushes feet even-though he was at
the stern when the ship ran aground. This group of conservatives must go, we got to get the country moving and being broke
is not the way to get the wheels turning, so we spend ourselves out of a recession before it becomes a depression and then
take the money recovered from business generated to continue to power the machine while paying our debts, sounds like our
household to me.
We as that new generation will be judged by this blunder for years to comer as we reduced the shine of America from
sea to shining sea. We have rightfully allow those like Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck to spew their hatred, lies and poison
across this great country, which is their right by the constitution, but to but into such bullshit is beyond me. I though civilized
people thought for themselves and did their own research but now we have a herd being led to the slaughter by a group of fools that
cannot even believe the lies they tell. Hate mongers and naysayers will always be on this earth and they will always want that 1950s
America that 99% of the rest of us are glad will never come back.
Any fool in America knows everything from the research to the pill, the pill bottle, and it's inscriptions on that bottle is controlled
from Washington. Do you recall when George Bush said that stem cell research was wrong and now we are 8 years farther behind
the research of curing diseases, and growing limbs and spinal cord research. Folks wake up from this nightmare and stop letting the
Conservative say the public does not want healthcare, WHAT DAMN PUBLIC, have they become the public and speaks for the rest of us.
Even some on medicare are against healthcare reform and they do not even know what the hell it is about.
Half the new projects in America are powered by stimulus money, I have not seen any teachers raising hell because it saved their jobs.
I have not hear anyone that refused the money they got back as stimulus at federal tax time or the FICA reduction on their paychecks.
I think it is time to research alternative energy, I had solar panels back in the late 70's installed on my home, it made a big difference.
In the late 1990's I got ready to retire and remodeled, unfortunately that was one thing I let go.
Too many of us are buying into the hype and not doing any research, or is it selected amnesia, my Mom told me
to always try to come up on the side of right and that is where I will strive to be and I think we are headed in a better
direction than we were a year ago.
Do not stop sending your opinions and I will not stop voicing mine, I know not many will voice their opinions on these issues
they will forward them as they are as if they believe them whole heartily or delete them. It is interesting to see how we as a generation
think of life in America today. I am on Facebook under the same name.
Much love from the other side of the issue.
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