Sunday, December 20, 2009

The Poly Lifestyle

From: waters_sand
> Subject: [polyaa] Re: one othe thing
> To: polyaa@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 5:29 PM
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> I think the narrow categorizing of men, allows a narrow conceptualization of relationships, and makes it easy to then judge by removing the complexities. There is a use of anger and moral judgment as a way of resolving our emotions, that is common. By simplifying men as sex based, it is an indirect way of expressing anger at any dissatisfaction at their behaviour that women feel is problematic. Again, human individual complexity is reduced to narrow categories and fragments of experiences.
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> --- In polyaa@yahoogroups. com, "colemaniii" wrote:
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> > I've been watching this debate, discussion or what ever you wish to call it and a certain reoccuring statement caught my attention and I feel a need to speak upon it from a different propesctive.
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> > There is a repeating idea that men only deal with women long term for sexual purposes. That's not always true, I avoid marriage mostly because I believe it's monogamous construct and I'm not monogamous. As a guy you can always find sex from a woman. Whether you go from partner to partner when their current woman becomes tired of the relationship. Or he can even pay for it, prostitutes or a woman who doesn't walk the street but has her price. That's neither here nor there, my motivation to respond comes from the fact that one of my spices/lovers and I have a sexless relationship. I still love her as much as I do my girlfriend whom I share a family with. I continue my relationship with her regardless if we have sex. Nor am I waiting around for the day we go there, it does not have a barring on my feelings for her. While I realize I am not the norm I don't want women to believe we(men)are purely motivated by sex. That is far from the truth.
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> > Tres
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> > --- In polyaa@yahoogroups. com, "whisper3words" wrote:
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> > > I agree with Aria that the secondary relationship may not be all about sex. However, take the sex away and the relationship will surely vanish. Although few will admit it, many; perhaps most men would forego marriage altogether if they could get sex without it. They too have been fed a fairy tale that says that once they get married they will be able to have regular reliable sex with their wife. When that does not happen, they freak out. Sure, they enjoy the companionship of another woman. However, the bottom line is, men have to have their sex!
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> > > --- In polyaa@yahoogroups. com, "waters_sand" wrote:
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http://books. google.com/ books?id= 6vdbt5bUI78C& pg=PA183& lpg=PA183& dq=concepts+ of+honesty+ culturally& source=bl& ots=c0f8AqaIxK& sig=_tH99I9J- eSqeAon2UvUftOe_ rI&hl=en& ei=dm-VSoC_ HI66lAfWj- SvDQ&sa=X& oi=book_result& ct=result& resnum=2# v=onepage& q=&f=false
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> > > > Although cultural relativism is real, we are individuals and not cultures. Cultures inform us, but are not 'us'. Hence I am an individual and I was also thrown by the demand that I live according to this cultures requirements regardless of 'me'. Not only for me, but for many sub-cultures, linguistically and communally, this is a problem. One can argue the same for polyamorists and say that since it is not this cultures dominant norm, that one should not engage in it here, but move to a polygamous country. It also ends up negating social movements or attempts at social change from any dominant forms of oppression. I don't however believe that what was said, was coming from a place of necessarily thinking about these problems in a broad application, including social change, but from an emotional place of anger, which is why I didn't respond to that comment before, because I did not and would not engage in the anger piece.
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> > > > But in mentioning the socio-historical aspect and enforcements of new constructs over time, per era, in the last post, I felt prompted to re-visit that, as in a broader sense they relate conceptually.
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> > > > I don't know if the link above will be of any interest to anyone, but figured it couldn't hurt, for those who might find it uncovering for some aspects of the discussion.
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> > > > Aria
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> > > > --- In polyaa@yahoogroups. com, "waters_sand" wrote:
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> > > > > Thanks for your input.
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> > > > > There are many things to what you say, including of course that this has been going on forever. Monogamy is a fairly recent historical construct and became dominant first in Europe with the industrial revolution cementing it, and precursors beginning from the medieval period. It was initially constructed to create the nuclear family, and dissolve other forms of kinship organizing to allow for the transmission of private property and linked to the maintenance of new state formations in that era. It was also buffeted by the church in that era to the church's own relationships to property acquisition. Non monogamous forms of family organizations in non western regions were afterwards negated with legal and economic penalties, and this was made more effective with colonialism, which was the economic cornerstone of the movement of the industrial revolution. Without monogamy and with prior and other non western forms of family organization, the concept
> of 'cheating' does not even exist. The creation of the nuclear family and monogamy, drove non monogamous forms of human relating that had always been in humans dominant existence and experience, "underground" , as it now became legally, socially and morally 'illicit' with societal penalties in place to enforce it.
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> > > > > When societies change a social form, over time as that social form reproduces itself generationally and becomes a "taken for granted" reality, without knowledge of its history, precursors, reasons for its development or prior ways of being and living, it also becomes embedded emotionally, as our identities and understandings and meanings become integrated with whatever the expected and taught norm of the era is. Hence, the anger, bitterness, disappointment, fear, and more that any deviance from the demanded norm creates. Even if it is, as you stated, not actually a deviance, as it may actually be dominant "underground" in lived reality, and most people dont understand why socio-historically, because we are not taught to approach things in that way. If we were, many more social constructs would be challenged and that would be contrary to the maintenence of the state as is, including power relationships and possible change.
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> > > > > For me with my partners wife, I actually, although many traditionalists would not understand or want to hear this, but I feel a love for his wife as well and I fully support his marriage, and hope to find a way for all our unions, which is what we are working on. I wont attempt to describe it because I think people will just shun it, as I have already experienced in attempting to talk about this. This process now is all about trying to compromise while meeting her needs and understanding them from her perspective as well as mine.
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> > > > > Not all 'extramarital' relationships are about sex. I wonder if most are actually. And more women are also now having these relationships. Personally I consider that the tiny boxes that we are taught to live within, not only monogamy, but many other forms, like when I gave the example of LGBT experiences, do not reflect the complexity of human emotion and experience, but we are required by many social requirements to fit within, and learn to squeeze into those boxes, regardless of personal breadth.
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> > > > > I am dubious now, as to if my expressions and words make sense anymore, given the initial response, i.e. if they are 'understandable' , not emotionally, but even just intellectually, but I try to respond anyway.
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> > > > > Thanks for your input,
> > > > > Aria
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> > > > > --- In polyaa@yahoogroups. com, "whisper3words" wrote:
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> > > > > > A women named Audrey Chapman wrote a book back in 1985 in which she asserted that 85% of black women were engaging in what she termed `man-sharing' in which their husband or significant other has an on-going relationship with another woman. Not a fling or one night stand but a serious ongoing relationship like the one Aria is having and like the one Sherica mom's had and like the one my ex-husband had. More recently, my gynecologist told me that the latest statistics show that 90% of black men have more than one sex partner at any given time. Yes, 90%. But let's not mix everything up. Rather, let's keep the focus on polygamy and honesty. First, I concur that when a woman or man finds out that the spouse is having an affair it can destroy the jilted spouse to the core. As Sherica testified, it can lead to years of bitterness, self-hatred, abusive behaviors towards the children and a host of other destructive behaviors. I for one, lost my self
> confidence, my ability to perform my job, to concentrate. I lost my ambition to succeed. Few tragedies are more devastating�at least in my view.
> > > > > > Yet these relationships have been going on since the beginning of time, have never waned, are as prevalent today and as widespread as ever! We commonly respond with disdain towards the `cheating' couple. I say cheating for lack of a better word because I no longer think of it as cheating.
> > > > > > We have to stop and ask ourselves how this situation has been created and what new strategies can we adopt to protect ourselves from the debilitating pain. We need a different way of responding. Our anger and resentment is useless. It does not stop the `problem' and is does not help us to heal the pain.
> > > > > > Telling women not to sleep with married men is totally fruitless. It is not going to happen. We think it's the women who won't leave the husbands alone but no�it is the husband consistently luring the women into his bed and his life.
> > > > > > First, let's face the fact that men have a seemingly uncontrollable need to sleep with someone in addition to their primary partner. They will stop at nothing to satisfy this need. Elliott Spitzer, Bill Clinton and tons of other brilliant men have risked their careers and reputation. Why must they do it? I believe there are a few dynamics at play. One, sometimes it is because their primary partner is not willing to satisfy their sex drive. Simple as that. They need sex more than we do�.in general. For many men, having sex is as fundamental as drinking water. What would you do it someone denied you water?
> > > > > > Two, a man may have this ongoing relationship with a women but he really only wants sex. He maintains the relationship because he realizes that it is the only way that the woman is going to keep having sex him. It may start out as `just sex' and before long she begins to demand that he stay all night or take her out or do something to show his commitment to her. We don't want to be any body's `piece of ass', correct?
> > > > > > Third, a man does it secretly because he knows two things. One, his wife will not accept it and two, he cannot do without it. What happens if he is `honest' and tells his wife? The fighting begins.
> > > > > > The worst part of this dynamic for me is the fact that generation after generation, we watch our daughters grow-up knowing that they are going to face the same pain and humiliation as we have and we do nothing to prepare them for it. As girls, most of us grow up thinking that if our husband `cheats' on us it means that he is different, bad; that he does not love us and that our marriage is a failure. By letting our daughters believe this we set them up to be hurt, hurt, hurt.
> > > > > > We need to tell our daughters what is obvious to us. That in all likelihood, their marriage will not be monogamous! We need to tell her that her self-worth does not come through her spouse. We need to fortify her with self-love and confidence to address the problem and work-out a solution with her partner instead of sitting at home crying herself sick and being so consumed by the situation that she forgets how to function. Scientifically and statistically speaking, a man sleeping with a woman other than his wife is normal. It is the rule and not the exception. He is not intentionally trying to hurt his wife. Men have to have their sex. That's it.
> > > > > > This does not answer all the questions but I think we have to face our reality with common sense and a willingness to be honest with ourselves. What we want is to have peace and happiness in our lives. Blaming people for what they do naturally will not bring us happiness.


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Wed, August 26, 2009 5:22:44 PM
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a thought, and mine alone, I'm not claiming its anyone else's, as I do with all my thoughts. 'Should's' suggest an ability to judge and have one solution for each and every situation and person. I can never say what someone else 'should' do, or what 'is' in another person's situation, for I am not them, and I am not God and in my humility cannot assume to have a corner on what's right for even one other human being. Each person is unique and each complex that affects them as individual human beings, with unique histories and experiences that inform them emotionally and cognitively, and each situation is hence unique. How I responded to my experience where my partner had an affair for example, was possible because of a mix of who I am, who he was as a person, and how I saw him as a person, and how I had experienced and understood our relationship thus far. I also tend to embrace situations in my life as challenges to question my prior understandings, so I can expand what I 'thought', and this was no different for me. I did not even like the other woman personality wise, but I loved him, and what I discovered that meant for me, was unique for who I am. That response will be unique and different for each and every individual, based on complexities that make them who they uniquely are, and each situation and relationship history will be different, and hence each response and needs will be different.

Very educating dialogue. The openess and honesty and concious respect of the primary and their feelings keeps the relationship strong and loving. I am new to the group and look forward to learn as much as I can. I joined to be share what knowledge I have and to be educated and grow. Thank You for your contribution to thought and knowledge.

--- On Sun, 11/8/09, Sherica Freeman wrote:

From: Sherica Freeman
Subject: Re: [polyaa] Re: not sure if this posted right, response
To: polyaa@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 2:07 PM

 


Hey Mr. Moore,

I am glad that you found this dialogue interesting. I had not meant for that sister and my conversation to get so deep but she really brought out some real stuff. I am a woman that accepts and sees the bennefits of polyamory as it relatesto happy adults who then can create and maintain happy families. My point I think you see is that, just what you said, mankind had been run amuck, led astray, hoodwinked. LOL. But notice that as you said healthy open and honest communication is what makes the difference. The lying and bullshitting, and betrayal is what turns the situation ugly for the other partner....who may in turn, as my mom did become bitter and therefore lash out at everyone including the kids.  Let's think about this too...alot of women have children with men, not so much because they want children but they want a real connection with that man...especially since marriage as an institution is seeing its darker days. So if the motivation for the child is the man what happens to the woman's attitude towards the child that she had once the man moves on with another woman....by leaving or by trying to maintain more than one relationshi; p. Does that woman abuse the child? I see alot of child abuse now adays. I am a teacher. Many of my students are the product of a woman trying to keep a man...cause of course there was no marriage proposition. Once the man is gone from the woman.,,,.the child is just in the way. Most of my students are black. Almost all of my male students call their fathers "that motherfucker" and worse. They hate their fathers because they have abandoned them. The fathers left because they wanted something more...another woman, additional women or whatever. The woman feels rejection, she regrets the child, who now is useless to her ends...and the child resents the father who got the hell on because he is catching hell from the woman. What could heal all of this? Probably polyamory. Men could take care and maintain working relationships with the women and children. Of course there would have to be other alternative options for the women as well, which surely, tends to be a quiet situation... .as women don't bother showcasing "other men" unless they want a problem with their primary male partner. I am in a triad but I still have 2 other males who are part of my life. Iknow where my primary relationship and responsibility is. My fiance knows about them by name but I also keep the idea of male pride in mind. I have a cautious move about what I do. like the other day my fiance noticed that my wall in my house was painted. I had asked him like a year ago to help me do it. He kind of bullshits on that kind of thing. So I just let the wall sit. Then my lover, Amadu, from West Africa....spent 3 days with me during his work vacation and said he was gonna get bored while I was at work. So I said jokingly well, you can paint my wall. He is always eager to please me so he was like show me the paint. When I  got home it was all done. A few days later my fiance is at my  house and he notices the wall and asks when I had time to do that since i have such a busy schedule. I told him amadu did it. Now when I say that quiet move...i simply mean that some women might be like well if you don't do it so and so will. I would never say that. Some women might. This is disrespectful to the ;primary relationship. He didnt say anything so he might havve thougt "GOOD" its done she got what she wanted and I didnt' have to lift a finger. I don't know what he thought. It was not a problem though. So It is the smae way that I feel when Anita cooks dinner for me and Nizz. I like the shared responsibityl Food is good , he eats, we all eat and I got to chill. I like that. Poly can be good for eve3ryone. My typing is fast and crazy and I am not spellling correctly  ....sorry.
--- On Sun, 11/8/09, T E Moore wrote:

From: T E Moore
Subject: Re: [polyaa] Re: not sure if this posted right, response
To: polyaa@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 3:43 AM

 

I came upon this thread late and am really being enlightened by now grownups that experienced fathers or
mothers that had lovers or even another household, that now have anger issues from their childhood, the one thing
that I see is that the morals of society pulled a quick one on mankind and we as a whole bought into it. 

The Poly lifestyle should be wholeheartedly accepted in this society because it is not going away.  As the economy
constricts the idea of multiple salaries and combined efforts for success will become more prevalent.  It will be those
that are stuck in the old ways that will be the main impediment to the full fledged openness of this lifestyle that strives among us.

As for children, if it is normal daily life there will not be any ill effects.  It was the evilness that eminated from onme parent to
corrupted their otherwise peaceful existence.  The situation would have been totally different I think with an in-house existence
with full understanding and corporation.



From: waters_sand
To: polyaa@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, August 26, 2009 9:35:09 AM
Subject: [polyaa] Re: not sure if this posted right, response

  I will be honest. I did not read your entire response. Just the highlighted parts. It's okay to disagree. And I'm okay with that. Your highlighted quotes support what I said. I said she does know about me and that we have been in a stage and space of working it through with her needs. There are discussions in different communities about how to negotiate and problem solve when in a relationship and one person leans more towards non monogamy and other other doesn't. Anyway, as you know, your feelings are not culturally atypical. And as I said, I both understand them culturally and accept them. As I do my own. Good luck. And again, I am completely okay with your views, as I am mine, as I would be any additional alternate ones. Life and lives are much more complex and varied than our current society appreciates. Take care, Aria

--- In polyaa@yahoogroups. com, Sherica Freeman wrote:
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> Aria, this is what you said: __________ (below)
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> and my current relationship after ten years single (im in my fourties), is with a man that Ive had the greatest spiritual synchronicity with in my life, and he is married. as we grew to love each other, we wrestled with what this meant, as this was a totally new and unexpected situation for me. for him feeling like this about someone other than his wife freaked him out and disrupted him for a while, as he had never felt like this before.
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> for him he had tried speaking to his wife about polygamy since they first got married (20 years) but she has been dead set against it. but has known that his views never changed. its been three years now that we are involved (long distance) and she does know about me for the last year, and they have been arguing about it since. hes watered down the context for her as he tries to increase slowly and get her to be open to at least more discussion and broader discussions, but its making no difference, she wants him to have no contact with me in any way ever again. they are determined to work it out. so now it means we are almost in the closet again. she knows about me of course, but during this time we are closeted interactionally as he and his wife explore and try to figure out how to resolve this.
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> Now sister, I got my hands on my hips right now. I am simply going to say my peace and be done with it. I got to tell the truth plain and simple. Why? Because this dialogue needs to happen in the black community. We black women have got to start respecting each other first! We must have a sisterhood. I am looking out for my sister whether she knows it or not. I have got her back. The sisterhood in the black community is the backbone of a strong black community. Only through that respectful and genuine sisterhood can things in our community come to fruition. So let's start there. Forget poly. I am not judging you. I am telling you straight and direct that you are hurting another black woman both directly and indirectly. That is plain. Now of course you can use cloudy, airy language to justify all of this but it does not change the fact. Sometimes we get so caught up in the clouds, talking about spirituality and such and such that we forget our "common
> sense-es." Pain is pain. Deception is deception. No matter what part of the world you live in or what culture you come from. A cheating spouse in India feels the same as a cheating spouse in Venezuela. The woman feels pain. She feels betrayal. Now maybe you don't want me to be the mirror that allows you to see yourself and your actions because you have deemed this all as some spiritual union that a mere mortal wife cannot stop, but I must say it plain: YOU ARE HURTING ANOTHER PERSON. ANOTHER BLACK WOMAN.  You are aware of this...look what you wrote. You admit to it, but yet you keep doing it. I am simply telling you as one black woman to another, that this is a large part of our problem as a black community when it comes to broken families and marriages.
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> Now we are having this dialogue for a reason. Believe that. You are wishing that you did not share your situation and your thoughts...and you probably won't respond...which is fine by me...cause the message that is for you is laid....but the truth is that my father had a woman just like you. She felt tied to my father...would not let go. They conspired against my mother. It went on for 10+ years, from the age of 9 for me. My mother was absolutely devastated. I cannot tell you how that negative energy that she carried with her manifested on my bother and I. Her mood swings. She began to smoke all the time even though she had never been a smoker. She was even abuse at times all very suddenly. She spent most of the rest of that marriage angry, bitter, and hateful. I suffered because of a woman like you. My mother left him finally because of a woman like you. My family was broken up because of a woman like you. A woman that did not respect a marriage, or
> the children and moreso...the woman who did not respect a wife and her wishes. So yes, there is a tad bit of anger and resistance. I spent 10 years seeing a woman struggle with that "oh so empowered" other woman, lurking in the background of their marriage, destroying our family with every calculated move. And each time your respond to this post I am stunned at your audacity...the way that you think that you have got it so figured out...so in control...I can see it in the words you use...the way you try to describe things...move around,...skirt the real issues with your semantics, and pseudo-cognative psychology. I am going to end it here. Because this conversation is bringing up my own childhood hurts from my broken family too much and I am getting angry with you because I imagine that maybe if they have kids some little girl or boy might be suffering too just like I did.
> So with that. I am done. I need to say and will say no more. I have said it: You are hurting another woman.
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> --- On Tue, 8/25/09, waters_sand wrote:
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> From: waters_sand
> Subject: [polyaa] not sure if this posted right, response
> To: polyaa@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 5:20 PM
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> No worries about your expressions. I don't judge or query yours, and I hope that mines aren't as well, but they are.
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> I don't think that sharing more about what different things mean to me, and that I was not and am not making any universalizing comments about what poly "is", as I don't think like that about anything. I personally don't believe that any concept, idea or way of being is universal in its form, including when people use the word "poly". I actually find that very problematic. That's when ethnocentricy occurs.
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> But I know when to take a cue and keep my thoughts and feelings to myself and I will. And I don't take that cue with any ill feeling whatsoever. And that's not being said passive aggressively. I really am okay with doing so. Even if someone else might not be open to considering my subjective understandings, I do understand theirs. Which is why I am saying what I am saying in this particular post and respecting your emotional and intellectual location. I do get it, more than might be known and understood.
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> I know you state an openness to dialogue but I almost feel now as if we might be talking about different things, different concepts, and even our understandings of the word dialogue appears to be different.
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> Lastly though, because you mentioned it again in what seemed to be anger, although I corrected the information prior, his wife does know about me and we all know what's going on.
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> Take care,
> Aria


Thursday, November 19, 2009

Real Vs Fake

Big breasts always attract men’s attention despite the fact that the female body is a beautiful thing even without the enhancements big. In case you really need to know whether you are dealing with the real McCoy, here are a few pointers…
Unnatural shape - Most breasts aren't perfect orbs and they usually aren't identical. Be on the lookout for the way they hold in place as she moves around (especially her arms), and how they stay almost the same dimension - instead of flattening out - whether she reaches back or even stretches. Furthermore, when she bends over, you should see them fall if they're real.
Bubbly look - On the topic of odd breast shapes, the top of her breasts are bubbled up - just like bubble butts. Fake boobs defy gravity, so they might look like they're bubbling up. Natural breasts follow a more natural sliding curve line from top to bottom.
Overly firm - Real breasts are mostly fat, which gives them a jiggle quality; if they look more like solid muscle, you may be in the presence of a pair of fake ones.
Standing tall - breasts should be at about armpit height. But some bad breast jobs start them way too high on the chest, as if she's got two flotation devices strapped to her chin.
Too far apart - If you can fit your fist between her breasts, they're probably fake. The doctor should have scraped the pectoral tendons to give them a more natural emplacement, but didn't.
Asymmetrical nipples - True, you don't always see nipples through clothes, but if she's wearing a see-through top, a really tight shirt, or even if it's just a little cold out, take a glance at them. Nipples are seldom perfect, but a bad boob job may put them too high, too low, or not pointing in the same direction.
Stretch marks - This usually stems from the surgery. Skin stretches as we grow, but stretched skin can also leaves marks - usually little red lines. If she went too big or her doctor wasn't that great, you might spot the stretch marks.
Disproportional body - You can usually tell if her breasts are fake by comparing it to the rest of her body.
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Thursday, October 8, 2009

$50B in high-speed rail applications submitted - Yahoo! News

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New jobless claims fall to 521K, lowest since Jan. (AP) - Yahoo! Finance - Yahoo! Buzz

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Pot legalization gains momentum in California - Yahoo! News

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Senior Dating

Dorothy and Edna, two "senior" widows, are talking.

Dorothy: "That nice George Johnson asked me out for a date. I know you went out with him last week, and I wanted to talk with you about him before I give him my answer."

Edna: "Well, I'll tell you. He shows up at my apartment punctually at 7 P.M., dressed like such a gentleman in a fine suit, and he brings me such beautiful flowers!

Then he takes me downstairs, and what's there but a luxury car... a limousine, uniformed chauffeur and all. Then he takes me out for dinner... a marvelous dinner... lobster, champagne, dessert, and after-dinner drinks.

Then we go see a show. Let me tell you, Dorothy, I enjoyed it so much I could have just died from pleasure! So then we are coming back to my apartment and he turns into an ANIMAL. Completely crazy, he tears off my expensive new dress and has his way with me two times!"

Dorothy: "Goodness gracious!... so you are telling me I shouldn't go out with him?"

Edna: "No, no, no... I'm just saying, wear an old
dress."

Wednesday, October 7, 2009

Senators not directly supporting the Public Option

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Democrates Not Supporting Public Option Plan


The Public Option is just an option, My family of 2 pays $602 monthly for health care. Can you afford this, if not you better get you head into this issue, cause without reform it continues to rise in cost.

All Police Actions Are Not Racially Motivated

Well, I got pulled over last night by the Dallas Police, the bad part was I was in the parking lot of Walgreens, just picked up my good drugs, and was ready to go to get a Dbl Burger. all at once as I pull out and start to leave a car comes up behind me, I pull to a vacant area in the parking lot and another car pulls up light blaring , spotlight right in my face.

I was not happy at all because I knew I hadn't done anything, my automobile was in compliance, and I could not have broken any laws cause all I did was back out of my parking space and start driving out the parking lot. A young female office approached my vehicle standing a little to my rear with her flashlight shining right in my face.

She said, how are you doing tonight? I glared at her but did not respond, and she said you do not have to give me that dirty look. I then asked, why are you bothering me, everything is in order.....she said, your plates came up on a warrant hit. I said, WARRANT HIT, I have no warrants, here take my insurance and licenses, she did not take them, she checked my VIN number, walked around to the front of my truck and checked the front plate, then came back and said, take your insurance papers outta the binder, I did, she took them and returned to her car, but the other officer stayed on stance behind his door.

She was gone a few minutes and returned and said have a good night Mr Moore, and I said you guys be careful out there. Fuming I drove off, with my mind screaming the nerve of those dirty haters. Later after thinking it over, I realized I had let all the years of anger and disappointment in My America again arise in me. This demon is one that I will fight the balance of my days.

If my truck had been stolen, or a serial killer had me held hostage, or I was the uni-bomber they would be instant heroes. I talked it over with my wife and we reasoned the actions away as good Officers doing their job and not profiling. So I am gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and continue Backing The Blue.

Michael Crabtree, agent Eugene Parker meet with San Francisco 49ers personnel - ESPN

Michael Crabtree, agent Eugene Parker meet with San Francisco 49ers personnel - ESPN

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Tuesday, October 6, 2009

Once famous lottery winner now broke

Once famous lottery winner now broke

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AP Poll: Obama's job approval rises amid concerns - Yahoo! News

AP Poll: Obama's job approval rises amid concerns - Yahoo! News

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Animals seized from Sunnyvale feed store | WFAA.com | Local News: TV

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AP sources: NY suspect had senior al-Qaida contact - Yahoo! News

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Polanski loses first round in extradition battle - Yahoo! News

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Overbooked Airlines Increasingly Bump Passengers - WSJ.com

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Monday, October 5, 2009

What The Hell Is Going On

Did our American dream just evaporate right in front of our faces? Somebody tell me what happend to our booming economy, the bullish stock market, and my damn retrement funds. Oh, by the way while I was getting it all setup in place my health started to fail and ...what the hell happened to my health care? The price is so damn high that I can only pay for it now with my credit card... Damn those SOB's, that jacked my credit card rate up to 29% ... Let me pay these SOB's off and cut them up.......the wife wants a fancy remodeling job done in the kitchen and bathroom....maybe I should sell one of my properties...damn the housing market is down and no one has money to buy let alone a good enough great rating to get financing...I gotta look at my budget, trim some fat...OK let's see now, I can do without XM Radio, awww , about half of the channel on Dish Network, all these magazines,,hell I do not need them either, OK is that enough cuts...Damn still in a crunch, better get a sharper knife ...Gotta cut deeper.

I do not need blackberry internet on my phone...those SOB's you cannot access the net at all with that damn phone unless all the connection are cut, well to hell with it, I can live without it. All I need is texting and a medium amount of minutes anyway. Let me check and see if I can get lower insurance for same services. Oh let me get rid of my road service...cut back on my entertainment expenses, I will only make necessary trips.

Whew, that was exhausting, let me sit back and do some budgeting...I know with all those cuts my budget should be a little less cramped and I should be able to relax and maybe enjoy a few days without this crap on my mind.

What!! What!! Still not enough.. My God how the hell was this deck of cards standing anyway?

Ring!!! Ring!!! Hello.... Mr Moore did you forget to send in your payment, it is three days past due....Dammit I am trying to balance my budget here...somma you muthas just gonna have to wait and somma of you just not getting a damn payment this month, now bye I gotta get back to my budget.

OK OK, back to the task at hand... oh, I no longer need that business line..it is just eating up money I can go to the no line internet service if it does not downgrade my speed. Oh, if I get rid of that line, my ISP service goes up $10 and I have to add my fax number to my other line, and you say it will be a net savings of what $5...damn well forget that...gotta find something else... let me call those credit card MF's and negotiate some settlement payoffs. Oh, really... Can I make payments on that?

OK, Family Meeting!!

This is what we gonna have to do to get back on track.

I have made all the cuts that I can right now, is there anything you guys think you can give up?

Wife ~~~~~I gave up everything I was gonna give up years ago. It is not my problem. I am gonna get that work done in the kitchen and bathroom and I will be through for a while.

Daughter ~Well I am gonna need some help getting my car fixed, it needs a battery and gonna need brakes soon. Also your Grand baby gotta have things, so don't forget that. Other than that I do not fit into your budget...Oh, Dad you got $50, I am broke.

Thoughts in my head: These bitches crazy, I do not think they know the gravity of the situation, but let me look deeper later, maybe I overlooked a few things.

Wow, wrong folks to talk to about budgeting.

Now you multiply that and cut out all the entertainment and new purchases...Oh and lay off a large percentage of the workforce, since nobody is spending and you will see why the economy is still tanking.